Comments on: Lifeguard is 70s background fodder, nothing more https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/ Big voices. Little censors. Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:43:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: Bill Jorgenson https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-54208 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:44:01 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-54208 I don’t think you even read your own reviews. You specifically said Moon River was “Guffaw Inducing.” That was your sentance and you can’t explain what that meant. If you meant that lots of other things were “guffaw inducing” then why did you then end it by saying “guffaw inducing Moon River”. Why can’t you just explain what was so odd about Moon River playing. Also you make the point that you that you depend on the intelligence of the reader, well I depend on the “reviewer” being able to actually make a point that means something. I still don’t understand what your point was about the Lifeguard contest being “laughable.” You write “It’s a laughable lifeguard contest with predictable results.” The reader is just supposed to somehow know what that means? What were the predictable results of the Lifeguard contest in the film. You are not a very good writer, it you just guess that the reader somehow can read your mind.

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By: Michael Noble https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-53801 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 15:31:45 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-53801 Hmmmmmm … I guess you didn’t see my comment above, Bill.

The “wow” wasn’t directed specifically at “Moon River” playing … but at some of the rather inane events I detailed making up the film. The “wow” was more an exasperation – which, apparently, I did not convey with enough *umph* so as to not point it at any one particular item.

The lifeguard contest in the film was laughable to me for its cheesy quality, not because there was a contest in and of itself. There are times when I rely on the intelligence of the reader to understand some of the things I state, the dopiness of that scene being one of them. Other times, elaboration is needed to bring a point across. But I didn’t feel there was the need in this case; in my opinion, if you’ve seen the film the event speaks for itself.

I try and make points that make sense when I do a review … and I even get it right some of the time. I leave it to the reader as to whether the things I say are simply words that fill a page and whether they make a point come across. I can’t think for the reader nor can I interpret fully what they might be reading at the time.

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By: Bill Jorgenson https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-51842 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 23:31:00 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-51842 The question remains, what was “guffaw inducing” about “Moon River” playing at the reunion? YOU are the one that said it, and I’m curious what that meant. I see by your reply you are familiar with the song and the fact that it won the Academy Award, but you still do not make it clear why you even mentioned “Moon River” in your review.

Also you mentioned a “Lifeguard contest” that was “laughable.” Why is it so “laughable” that Lifeguards would have a contest involving running and swimming? I really am curious because in half the reviews I read there are so many points that never seem to even make sense. I think reviewers just like to say things to fill up the page and couldn’t care less if the point is even worth making.

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By: Nyela https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-51822 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 19:20:15 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-51822 Yes, I remember ABC Afterschool Specials, and I think you do them a great disservice by comparing them to “Lifeguard.” Check out the 1981 “The Wave” and you might agree.

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By: Michael Noble https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-51818 Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:56:30 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-51818 Contrary to popular belief (mostly from my colleagues, associates, family, friends, random passersby … hokay, everyone … get off me), I like to think I’m a learned person, one who continues to learn every single day. (It’s a silly goal of mine as I wake up each morning.)

I’m of the mind that, in so doing, it will help keep me sharp and on my toes. (I respectfully request comments from the peanut gallery be left unsaid, thank you very much.) I firmly believe it will keep my mind engaged, that it will keep the Alzheimer’s at bay (should it ever decide to raise its ugly head) and, in a small way, it makes me feel better about myself.

In so doing, I’ve learned quite a few things to which I’ve never been privy.

And there’s one thing I can emphatically state is not one of those early morning things learned: That music popular during the time of one’s graduation year is often played during one’s high school reunion.

Now, despite never having been to any of his own reunions, this reviewer is quite aware of the above. How I know this, I cannot rightly determine, but it’s a given. I’ve seen it in film, heard it talked about by others, witnessed it on paper and more.

I know well of the song “Moon River.” I’m well aware it was composed and written by Henry Mancini and Johnny Mercer, respectively, that it was first featured in Breakfast At Tiffany’s (though I’ve never seen the film) and that it won an Oscar (and a Grammy for Mercer) and that it’s been covered time and again by a bevy of diverse artists, groups and other including Shirley Bassey, Vince Guaraldi, The Killers and (one of my favorite versions) Morrissey as well as having been featured on the likes of The X Factor and Mad Men, a show I’ve never seen. (See first paragraph above.)

I was not “so amazed” that “Moon River” was played, thus the “wow” I ended the paragraph with. The intent with which that “wow” concluded the thoughts was based each of the eight sentences that preceded it. You, Bill, chose to believe otherwise based on what you read. Here it is again … take a look at it in that context and you might see what I mean:

“Seriously … if not for the boobs and ass and occasional epithets, you could picture this as background noise while doing your homework snacking on cheese and crackers. It’s fodder more than anything else with little to sink your teeth into. It’s beach scenes we’ve been subject to ad nauseum from Jaws to Baywatch. (To be fair, writer Ron Koslow did mix it up a bit with some comicalness in the form of a dude exposing himself to beach-goers and an incident with a yahoo hiding out in the women’s restroom.) It’s lots of scantily clad females bouncing around. And it’s our hero Rick Carlson (the ever-mustachiod Sam Elliott, Mission: Impossible, Mask) bipping and bopping about in his Corvette or in his shorty-short lifeguard trunks. It’s a laughable lifeguard contest with predictable results. And it’s a practical guffaw-inducing “Moon River” playing at a high school reunion. (Wow.)”

But understand: I can completely see how someone could conclude that that final sentence would elicit the “wow.” Not a problem – people read things in different ways. In part. As a whole. Sometimes out of context. With preconceived notions. Based on a single sentence.

Regardless, I appreciate your response. Thank you for taking time to comment on the post.

Back to me learning something new everyday. Here’s what I gleaned from reading your comment (please know I could be completely wrong in this summation): The only thing you got out of six and a half hundred words?

Well … you’re comment answered that question …

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By: Bill Jorgenson https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-51335 Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:44:16 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-51335 This reviewer is so amazed that “Moon River” would be played at a high school reunion in 1976 and he even ends the thought with “Wow!” This is just for the reviewers information, High school reunions like to play music that was popular when the people attending the reunion were in high school. A high school renion that took place in 1976 might play “Moon River” because that was an Oscar winning song that would have gotten lots of radio play in 1961, I’m glad I could clear that up for the “reviewer”. Wow.

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By: Riss https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-50863 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:27:56 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-50863 I cannot believe you didn’t mention ROAD HOUSE as Sam’s true movie hit *snort* He was totally badass while 5 guys waited in line for their turn to get knocked out by him. sheesh https://youtu.be/u2Ub96Ir_4A

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By: Riss https://cliqueclack.com/p/lifeguard-sam-elliott-kathleen-quinlan/#comment-50862 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 02:19:34 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=13334#comment-50862 I remember after school specials. Wasn’t there one about the kid who was a bed wetter and his mom would hang his pee-pee sheets out of his bedroom window? It starred the same kid who was James at 15 then 16.

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