Comments on: A drastic proposal: No more remakes https://cliqueclack.com/p/no-more-remakes/ Big voices. Little censors. Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:43:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: Michael https://cliqueclack.com/p/no-more-remakes/#comment-1230 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:34:47 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=2525#comment-1230 I’m pretty much on board with the horror aspect of film remakes (to this day, I refuse to see the rehashing of Dawn Of The Dead), but I will counter with several I find equal to the originals: Frankenstein (remake of the Edison Frankenstein from 1910), Dracula (Nosferatu) and Charles Laughton’s The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (from Lon Chaney Sr.’s original). There’s a glaring difference, however: I’m talkin’ a completely different era of film making. But … it still proves the point: Older is better in all those cases.

I haven’t seen enough of the other genres to satisfyingly vent an opinion. (Though … Charlie And The Chocolate Factory rather fuels that fire.) While a different sort of remake, I dog-dug The Magnificent Seven (The Seven Samurai), but still we’re talking a different era without all the new-fangled effects and aspect ratios and glitter and glitz.

While I appreciate Ivey’s position above – he makes some good points – I have yet to plunk down to see the doppleganger of Footloose.

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By: An https://cliqueclack.com/p/no-more-remakes/#comment-1063 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:23:21 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=2525#comment-1063 When I was in graduate school and Disney started the Chronicles of Narnia films, I held a renaissance party for graduate students kids and tried to show them the 1980s Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe version. Bad costumes aside, I viewed it as a better adaptation. Needless to say, the kids were not having it and I eventually put the Disney version in.

I agree with you regarding needing more original films. However, while books might not do remakes, they do do sequels or texts “inspired” by originals. How many fantasy series basically rehash LOTR (Terry Brooks, etc.)? And, don’t get me started on the number of regency “Pride and Prejudice” continuation novels (Darcy’s Daughters, The 2nd Mrs. Darcy, etc.) So, novels do it, too, but they just can’t get away with blatant plagiarism.

Regarding Evil Dead, @ Philly Comic Con, Bruce Campbell seemed pretty excited for the Ash reboot. He didn’t see it as a straight up remake, but gave it his seal of approval and talked about reviewing the dailies.

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By: Chuck https://cliqueclack.com/p/no-more-remakes/#comment-1057 Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:30:55 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=2525#comment-1057 Like John Waters once said, just remake the bad movies and make them better.

But you really hit the nail on the head when you said people who weren’t born when the original was out won’t be bothered to see it … because it’s old. Remakes are for that generation. Older folks like myself generally hate remakes of great films that we grew up with, with only a few that can stand up with the original. I’d like to see someone remake Plan 9 from Outer Space, but with a really good script, cast and special effects rather than a remake of King Kong, The Wizard of Oz, Citizen Kane, or even Rosemary’s Baby. Remakes of classics like The Haunting, Psycho and The Omen truly do fall into that “needless” category, and I worry that someone seeing an awful remake will assume the original is just as bad and miss out on something wonderful. So, I don’t think all remakes should be banned, but they should be better thought out and anything on the AFI list should be off limits!

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By: Ivey West https://cliqueclack.com/p/no-more-remakes/#comment-1046 Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:48:45 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=2525#comment-1046 I don’t know that I agree. First, I’m not a big horror film fan, so I’m speaking from a more generic perspective. But someone recently at i09 (https://io9.com/5931046/why-remakes-are-one-of-our-greatest-achievements-as-a-civilization) compared movie remakes/book adaptations to folk tales, an analogy that I’m a big fan of.

Example: I reviewed the Footloose remake last year. I had friends who said they’d never see it, because it was a needless remake. But they missed out on a hilarious performance by Miles Teller, proof that Julianne Hough can do more than just sing and dance and the potential of a star being born in Kenny Wormald. I enjoyed the hell out of the flick, and the BluRay sits right next to the BluRay of the original on my shelf.

I guess I’m just more tolerant of remakes than others. If someone else comes along in 10 years and wants to remake Star Wars, I don’t think I’d be against it. That might be sacrilegious to say around my group of friends, but I’d welcome it.

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By: Christopher https://cliqueclack.com/p/no-more-remakes/#comment-1029 Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:11:45 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=2525#comment-1029 I think I could get on board with a remake if we imposed some limits. Has to have been 30 years from the last sequel in the series, regardless of how successful it was. Either that or something like “everyone (and we mean EVERYONE) involved with the original is dead”. The 30 year rule would mean that yeah, it’s about time for the Evil Dead remake and the Carrie remake is past due, unless we allow for sequels of both films. The later rule however would probably mean that by the time a remake would be allowed, no one would care, so remakes wouldn’t be made.

And do we include reboots in this? If you don’t, everyone will just call everything a reboot instead of a remake. Did we need the Spider-Man reboot? Probably not, but what about Nolan’s Batman movies? I’m certainly glad those happened.

And it’s not like the originals no longer exist. You can still watch them. I think that’s where your argument has a bit of a problem in comparing it to the South Park episode’s statments. In these cases no one is doing anything to the originals. I don’t see it as the same thing as changing the originals like in your South Park example. Now, if when the Evil Dead remake comes out next year, Sam Raimi personally went around and destroyed every copy of the original movie, then yes, we would have a right to complain. But that movie is still going to exist. And in the year 2013, a large general audience isn’t going to go see Evil Dead 4 because too many people are ignorant to the original and won’t want to put forth the effort to “see the first three” before seeing the fourth one. However, you just simply title it Evil Dead and those same uninformed people won’t even know it’s a remake. I guess at the end of this, my thoughts are let the remakes flow and I still think they’ll either be great or sink on their own merits, regardless of their tie to a previous film.

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