Comments on: Is Arrow’s Speedy a spoiled, stuck up baby? Yes.

By: Mike B

Mike B — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:57:39 +0000

Artemis Crock aka Artemis in Young Justice out of a want to be good, moonlights out as an archer hero. When Speedy(Roy Harper) gets pissed from secrets being kept from him runs off and Batman and Green Arrow start tacking him down. Bruce and Ollie come across Artemis trying to track down Roy. They figure out she’s trying to be good and Bruce and Ollie bring her to the team and Ollie takes her in under his wing because Roy wants to go solo under Red Arrow. Artemis keeps her Artemis AKA instead of taking Speedy.
*Spoilers* Eventually we find out this Roy was a Clone and the real Speedy was frozen for like 8 years *END Spoilers*

Eventually everything leads to Ollie having lost his confidence in taking on sidekicks and that he is a poor mentor. We haven’t seen where this leads to yet since we haven’t seen him since episode 3, but we should have a recap of his story within a few episodes.

There’s also Mia, who’s prob the female Speedy that you’re talking about. She’s the “modern” Speedy but I don’t believe she has appeared since the reboot, but She hasn’t appeared in YJ either.

I think Arrow could get interesting, but I love YJ’s characterization that he feels like a poor mentor for all the losses he has between him and his sidekicks. It’s something that might be too much to do to Batman who has had that happen to him after Jason Todd and it didn’t work well for him. But it did for Ollie or at least does. I just want to see this story line where a hero has lost his confidence as a mentor. It feels like it has something to it that hasn’t been explored. I just sorta hope Arrow goes there. If they don’t, it’s their show and I hope for them they take it somewhere good.

By: An

An — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:38:00 +0000

lol @ the prom dress smackdown.

Surprisingly, I never watched the Young Justice cartoon, but I’ll assume Artemis is similar to the female Speedy in the Young Justice comics. However, the Young Justice comic Speedy had SERIOUS issues happen to her, which TV speedy can’t hold a candle to.

I understand what the ‘Arrow’ producers wanted to do with Speedy – show the results of a character who undergoes abandonment and what she might turn to when seeking solace. Unfortunately, we never see TV Speedy experience any abandonment. She comes across as an entitled brat who expects everything to happen to her. And when it doesn’t occur 175% the way she expected, she causes harm to herself and those around her. Willa Holland chews up the scene as Speedy, but man, I’d rather give her a character a good smack, than see her pick up a bow and arrow

By: Mike B

Mike B — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:36:14 +0000

Sounds like they should have used Artemis.
“Artemis Crock was born and raised in Gotham City. She is the daughter of Sportsmaster and retired villain Huntress, and the younger sister of Cheshire. During one of their crimes, her mother, Paula was crippled, and as a result took the fall for her husband. Paula spent the next six years in prison, during which Artemis was raised alone by her father, as her older sister ran away the same year due to their father’s emotional and verbal abuse.” -DC YJ Wiki

Although, Artemis actually only currently exists in Young Justice, the current running show. And all of her characterization is from Young Justice since she was created by their producers. So it might be difficult to use her. They could maybe use her in later seasons.

With this Speedy it sounds like she needs some real issues instead of these lame ones. They could write in her family towards a crash. With how good her life sounds and how all of her problems are “Drama”, maybe they could write her to fall and be a villain when “her Life is RUINED” by wearing an identical dress to prom or her step-father and her mother actually being villains. Some of the best things about sidekicks is that they don’t have to stay around forever and you can always make new stories with new ones.

By: An Nicholson

An Nicholson — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:40:25 +0000

Thanks, Nancy! I think Willa Holland’s doing a great job with the character, but I’d like Speedy’s drug abuse to have a stronger catalyst than just teenaged angst. Then again, I never read the original “Snowbirds Don’t Fly” arc, so maybe it’s similar. And, you’re right, TV does get too much mileage out of the pouty, over dramatic teenaged female –

By: Nancy

Nancy — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:49:51 +0000

Totally agree — I think the writers are going the easy, obvious, and trite route with her development. How hard is it to have teenage girls be portrayed as level headed and not ridiculous for once? The only character I can think of immediately is Alexis on Castle… I miss Rory Gilmore.

By: Ivey West

Ivey West — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:07:09 +0000

An 18 year old who thinks her problems are the worst in the world. Film at 11.