Comments on: The Mentalist’s Jack Plotnick on Brett Partridge’s true fate https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/ Big voices. Little censors. Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:43:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: thanya https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-50500 Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:49:12 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-50500 from the beginning I here in Brazil speak exactly the same thing for me is Red John Wayne Rigsby!!

]]> By: Shamank https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-50445 Fri, 01 Nov 2013 02:11:56 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-50445 red john is van pelt.

]]> By: Sean https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-49906 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:48:21 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-49906 I think Brett IS Red John and here is why:
The killer wants to remove himself from the list of suspects, and what better way than fake being murdered. Also, this would make the series really exciting.
Who else could have grabbed Lisbon? She had her back turned towards Brett, who she thought was dead.
Why not kill Lisbon? Because Red Johan (Brett) wants to use her as a witness and knows she will tell Patrick. Patrick, of course, won’t fall for it.
Only Brett’s cell was traced to the location of the murder. Not vital information, but important.

The coolest thing that Lisbon could have done was to shoot Brett in the knee when she thought he was dead. I’ll bet he would have screamed, and she would know he was faking it.

There are two great tricks here. One is the door opening, oposite where Brett was. And the other was Brett being locked in the closet. But both of these are simple tricks that can be planned, like simple magic tricks using strings. Patrick will reveal all this in the end.

Finally, the show fetches a lot of inspiration from Columbo, and there is a case where a guy gets murdered and the room is locked from the inside, but a string was used to pull the lock. So this appears to be another idea copied of a Columbo show.

It was Brett’s voice in the phone.

]]> By: Dan N. https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-49398 Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:43:49 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-49398 Some very good reasoning behind all your theories. A couple of years ago I posited that Red John will turn out to be Timothy Carter. Yes, Jane shot him, but Carter was wearing a kevlar vest and did not die. The two “guards” that took away his body were RJ minions. Even Patrick Jane was not entirely sure that Carter was dead, for he took the blind Rosalind Harker to the morgue to inspect Carter’s body. He was lying in his chamber and Rosalind felt his face, then told Jane: “I’ve never met this man.”
But it was a ruse. Later, an FBI agent found the body of Baris Acar, the morgue attendant, on the floor of Rosalind’s closet. He is dead. WHY? Absolutely nobody on the show “The Mentalist” has mentioned Acar since his body was found. My theory is that the morgue attendant was killed to keep him quiet about the fact that Carter was alive, not dead, when Rosalind visited the morgue.
I’ve thought and thought about it, and my theory is that Bruno is trying to make the big Red John reveal as sensational as possible. And WHAT would be more sensational than unmasking the “dead” Timothy Carter as Red John?

Dan

]]> By: The Seer https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-49178 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:58:51 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-49178 Very good analysis! I would only add that all of the people on Jane’s list had to have shaken hands w/ Jane (even if not on camera) or else they would not be on the list. Shaking hands w/ Jane is one of the criteria (along w/ physically being able to have been at the murder scenes etc.) to be on the list. So Partidridge had to have shaken hands with Jane. Though Partridge can no longer be considered a candidate to be RJ, I thought I would mention it.

]]> By: Curious https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-49106 Mon, 07 Oct 2013 07:52:58 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-49106 I think it’s Ray Haffner because:
* He’s a polished whistler and the psychiatrist’s notes say he whistlers
* “Roy” (written by Lorelei Martin’s sister) could have been “Ray” but as she was dying she didn’t get the middle letter written correctly
* Haffner appears in every episode which has “Red” in it’s name
* He’s witty and charming like Jane, and Lorelei Martins said Jane and RJ are alike
* They shook hands before Jane learned it was someone he had already shaken hands with
* He was a member of Visualize and was there when the murders were committed in the barn
* He said he had a messed up childhood, as someone of RJ’s profile would have
* He’s left-handed and the first episode of season 6, in which RJ is polishing the linoleum knife, shows that RJ is left-handed
* His having worked in both the FBI and CBI enabled him to make connections
* He has the physical strength needed to do some of the things that RJ did

]]> By: TC https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-48911 Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:32:54 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-48911 I personally think that it’s either McCallister or Haffner. The thing I CAN’T explain is his voice, why would he love Rebecca or Miranda.

]]> By: TC https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-48910 Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:26:10 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-48910 Please answer me! Where did you ask the actor Jack Plotnick? Please answer

]]> By: Ben https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-48909 Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:58:29 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-48909 I think the clown face is to show the fact that he was working as a carnie, similar to Patrick’s teenage background. I maintain that Red John is Patrick’s father.

]]> By: Chad Trollinski https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/#comment-48907 Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:49:52 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12784#comment-48907 Partridge does not work for Red John and never did. Partridge never shook Jane’s hand. This, among many other reasons, is why if you looked closely, Partridge was never a true suspect to begin with. I do not think that Bertram is RJ, but I could be wrong. Bertram does not quite match RJ physically, and to me, his overall personality and behavior do not quite fit what I see in RJ. A few things, like his quoting of William Blake that one time a while back and his behavior tonight, keep him on my radar, just not heavily. Kirkland most likely works for RJ. He is a close ally, and a bit of a proxy,(stand-in) like Timothy Carter once was. He also killed Jason Lennon, who did not recognize Kirkland, and he would’ve had Kirkland been RJ. Also, he shook hands with Jane long after Lorelei was in prison. Reede Smith might very possibly be the “Friend in the FBI” that RJ mentioned back in the season 4 finale. After all, that “friend” has not been revealed or mentioned since then. But Smith…simply is not very smart, among other things. Bret Stiles is the leader of the Visualize group that RJ is a member of. Ally? Possibly. McAllister is an especially intriguing suspect, as he was a guy that I barely remember from all the way back in the second episode. I ultimately do not see it in him, either, however, as the rock paper scissors match I remember he had with Jane…and…well, his overall interaction with people in the episode…and physique…yep…it’s not there. Ray Haffner is Red John. He matches the presumed physique completely. He is a member of Visualize, and he mentioned (to Lisbon) being a “messed up kid in the past, and taken in by Visualize”. He is one of the few men on the list that actually shook hands with Jane. He also conveniently shows up again in “The Red Barn” episode, when those three men dead men in the barn (along with the red smiley face on the side of the barn) were discovered (and presumed to have died in 1988, proving that RJ killed long before ’98.). And also notice the way he replied to Lisbon at the end of that episode, when she asked him if he was at that farm back when he was a 21 year old “kid”, and Visualize ran the place. (The priest that Jane talked to by the elevator before hand did mention that the face on the barn was supposed to have been drawn by a “kid” between the ages of 16-30.) He said, “Teresa, we’re still friends, right? Why would you ask me that?” Haffner is also a former FBI agent, which would explain why RJ has a few friends and accomplices in the FBI, like O’laughlin and the other man(possibly Smith). Also, accomplices like Lorelei have always told Jane that he is so much like RJ, in that they are both very manipulatively smart. In the barn episode, Haffner tries to coax Lisbon into joining him in his new law firm that he was working establishing, and constantly uses logical reasoning to try and get her to take on a new and “better” job. He also mentions (well, sort of implies) that Jane is the true reason Lisbon wants to stay with the CBI, rather than the job itself. Smart thinking, right? I also remember a time before this where Haffner tried to convince/manipulate Cho to spy on Jane, and listing a number of things that he knows Jane is going to try to do to him and his team. He knows Jane kind of well, doesn’t he? Although he had never really worked with him before that. Oh yes…and three other little things…#1. Jane and RJ hate each other, right? One other small reason for RJ to dislike Jane….he almost lost his job because of him when Jane made his own team turn on each other. #2….go back to when Lorelei was reading off the names in the video…she read it at a fairly steady pace…except for when she got to the third name…if you watch….there is a slight delay before she says Haffner’s name…why? A little bit of disbelief and/or shock that she was actually supposed to read off the real name of her pal? Maybe. And finally….#3….RJ’s favorite alias…Roy Taglieferro. Roy. Ray…Roy…hmmm…I may or may not see a resemblance there. ;D And lastly…as for RJ’s voice…don’t let that fool you. Anybody could really be capable of altering their voice in unlikely ways. Well…I’m done. What do you all think?

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