Comments on: The Mentalist – Who is Carmen Lee? I think I know. … https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/ Big voices. Little censors. Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:43:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: redjohn https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-53216 Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:32:15 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-53216 maybe Carmen Lee is the woman in the Chapel trying to kill Jane with knife in the Chapel….maybe she is red john… haha

]]> By: Rob https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-52487 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:19:32 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-52487 Here is another theory, with a slightly tenuous link to Janes carney days, Carnivals have Gypies fortune tellers, Carmen is indeed a shade of red, as is Rose, so i thought of Gypsy Rose Lee and guess what, her 1st husband in 1944 was called William KIRKLAND, just saying.
Also, the opera Carmen was about a Gypsy, she was the main character and was was murdered by her jealous former lover, when the opera was first performed it was almost unheard of for a main character to be murdered during the performance, possibly a nod towards Partridge, who was one of the main protagonists in the plot.

]]> By: Keith McDuffee https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-50650 Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:55:21 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-50650 Not sure it matters much. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_(surname):

“The names may be alternately transcribed into English as “Lee” using the Wade–Giles system, and Lee is still the most common romanization in the former British colonies of Singapore and Hong Kong.”

]]> By: floggyfr https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-50353 Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:07:39 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-50353 It’s Carmen Li and not Carmen Lee.

]]> By: anya https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-50204 Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:41:30 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-50204 Carmen LI, that is 51, by Catullus, after Sappho 31. “He seems to me equal to a god, he, if possible, [seems to] transcend gods, who, sitting opposite, again and again sees and hears you sweetly laughing…” – – whether the ‘he’ is Jane and the ‘you’ is Lisbon or v.v.

]]> By: Mentalcase https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-50183 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:28:13 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-50183 Lizbon also said that every time she hears the song with the lyrics “cake out in the rain” she thinks of a woman on a park bench with pigeons or something like that. The song is MacArthur Park and if you read the lyrics there are scenes throughout the series highlighting different lines. Yellow dress – RJ’s mistress, chineese checkers in the park under the trees – the guy that Jane beats in one episode, etc.

]]> By: Manuel https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-49413 Mon, 14 Oct 2013 12:16:45 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-49413 it can not be Kirkland because Lorena martins told Jane that he wonders how they did not become friends when they shuck hand and Kirkland come into the sane when Jane was kidnap ¨ ¨ by martins Red john are all the suspect but one is the boss (RJ) they work for him but they don’t know him physically they only receive orders no one knows Rj and lives. i think the real RJ is the leader of visualiza.

]]> By: aearndt https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-49259 Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:17:56 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-49259 Carmen sounds like carmine — a shade of red.

]]> By: Red John Is Walter Mashburn https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-49207 Wed, 09 Oct 2013 11:04:46 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-49207 That’s what Bruno Heller wants us to do analyze every single scene which is really cleaver .You can google it and you will see that there’re dozens of theories about a simple pigeons scene which is insane.

]]> By: CJ https://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-carmen-lee/#comment-49206 Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:57:02 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=12899#comment-49206 Another possibility is that the reference is to the Blake poem “The Echoing Green”. The meanings of both Carmen and Lee can be garden or field, hence the echo. Read the poem, see what you think. Could indeed hint that RJ wants Jane to kill him or that he is dying anyway.

Also, lots of birds in this season, (and in this poem), what’s that all about?

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