Comments on: One-season cliffhangers really, really suck https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/ Big voices. Little censors. Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:43:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: chrisdvanne https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-638 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:27:06 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-638 May i had add that two-season cliffhangers sucks too.

Any reference to a certain “scary robot” show that i love is purely coincidental but if you want to read what showrunner Josh Friedman had to say about TSCC cancellation, read his article on his blog.
link : https://hucksblog.blogspot.fr/2009/06/boy-in-bubble.html

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By: Maria https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-566 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:22:29 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-566 Yeah I did! I was really happy he explained so much of what was going to happen. Of course it’s bittersweet knowing we are never going to see it…
I forgot they never even aired the final 2 episodes in US… that’s just sad, I can’t imagine anyone watching the last episode and not loving it.

I wonder why the show failed, wrong network? Wrong advertising for the wrong type of viewer? People thought it would be more action intense like a Star* series? Or people are unable to follow a non-episodic format unless it’s on cable?

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By: Alex99a https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-565 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:06:40 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-565 I’m totally annoyed with cliffhangers in general, not just for cancelled shows. “Warehouse 13″ is an excellent example. We’re only 10 episodes along and we’ve already hit the “mid-season finale” with yet another cliffhanger, and they didn’t even fully resolve the one from the end of last season.

Even when they DO resolve a cliffhanger, often it just wasn’t worth the wait for it. The “NCIS” season opener left me thinking “I waited all summer for THIS???”.

I’ll tell you what else I think of cliffhangers….. but it’s the mid-season finale for this post, and you’ll have to come back in April to see what I’m going to say!

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By: Gary Mugford https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-563 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:19:59 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-563 Thanks very much for the link to Joe Mallozzi’s blog. Got the added benefit of reading about the non-existent sixth Atlantis season via a link there, too. It was a worthwhile few minutes.

As per your one disagreement with my comments, I will agree that I was too over-reaching with the blanket condemnation of cliff-hangers as rabble-rousing devices. I will amend it to, “Too many of them exist today …”

Appreciate your kind words and the effort you and your fellow writers put into this site. Thanks. GM

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By: Ivey West https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-561 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:27:46 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-561 I’m not sure that I agree with your final point, that cliffhangers only exist today to prompt fan appeals, because there are a lot of popular, non-in-danger shows that use them to great effect … many people don’t like the show, but Grey’s Anatomy does this particularly well.

But we both obviously agree that we wish we’d see more shows end with some level of closure.

Our editor Keith McDuffee has been real fortunate to set up a couple of interviews with the showrunners of Defying Gravity and Persons Unknown to get the low-down on what would have happened.

I was actually going to get him to reach out to the SGU showrunners for a similar type interview, but found that Joe Mallozzi had already written a blog that answers some — but not all — of the questions left open in the finale:

https://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/may-12-2011-stargate-universe-beyond-season-2-what-might-have-been/

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By: Gary Mugford https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-559 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:00:09 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-559 While one man’s vague stopping point is another man’s frustrating cliff-hanger, there ought to be a ‘law’ that all shows must shoot that extra episode that allows them to substitute a finale or stopping point if they don’t get word in time from the executives on high that the show will be renewed. That’s something a network like NBC could use as a promotional to “come see our (admittedly, often crappy) on-going shows because if the show’s good enough to get to 13 or 22, we guarantee you either a next season or a satisfying stopping point.” The extra episode could always be tossed in as a dream episode some time in future years, a valued extra on the DVD set, or a $2.99 special on one of the internet re-broadcast services. Or all three.

And IF that all doesn’t work, how about a text article, novella, full-fledged book or a comic book series to tell we too-few devoted fans what was coming next. For instance, I would have liked to know what the Stargate: Universe creators had planned for Eli and the stasis-frozen crew of the ship in season 3. With apologies to dedicated fan creationists, I’d want to hear the plans from the creators. Joss Whedon has done extremely well in adapting his Buffy-verse to the comic format. It CAN work. And while it might be more difficult to go that route with say, Dallas, prose alternatives also work fine.

Networks should either hold to the social contract I’ve outlined above, or go to the dedicated mini-series format popular in most of the rest of the world, where any particular season’s set of episodes might be the last ever seen. The Elementary progenitor, Sherlock, over in Britain, could have ended after each of the two three-episode series shown so far. The late lamented Crime Traveller had two four-episode series and then never graced the airwaves again. Or you get a 50-year run like that enjoyed by Doctor Who. And isn’t The Bill somewhere around 30 now?

Cliff-hangers are cruel. They exist today to spur fans to appeal to networks for continued episodes. We pay enough in commercials, cable bills and our time already. We shouldn’t be slave lobbyists too.

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By: Ivey West https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-557 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:54:54 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-557 The only problem with Defying Gravity’s ending is that ABC never got that far. Fans either had to “find” the video for the last couple episodes, or wait until the DVD collection.

Man, I loved that show :)

I take it you’ve read Keith’s post on his follow up interview with James Parriott?

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By: Maria https://cliqueclack.com/p/one-season-cliffhangers/#comment-554 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:25:52 +0000 https://cliqueclack.com/p/?p=1509#comment-554 For me the best “oops we got pulled from the air” cliffhanger is Defying Gravity, it was pretty much perfection (also damn you whoever you “demo” people are for not watching it!!)
Flashforward’s didn’t affect me much because they had kind of tied up all the ends they just gave a new one “in case”.

One of the worst that has been grating on me was Mercy’s (and again, damn you stupid “demo”… ). “Hart of Dixie” was a close call as well…

But I think showrunners nowadays should always script their first season with the notion in mind that it’s going to get cancelled. Like you said, it’s just a sad fact of life nowadays that shows don’t get 2-3 seasons to find their footing anymore. They are lucky if they even get the whole 13 episodes (poor Pan-Am…)

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