Comments on: In Supernatural season 8, it’s Dean who’s alone

By: andromeda

andromeda — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 00:06:03 +0000

Time and time again, I see the same Deanfans being very confrontational and aggressive toward others’ opinions. I may not agree with everything that’s been discussed, but there is a better way to go about things than name-calling and attacking. Is that really the MO of extreme Deanfans now?

By: Cindy

Cindy — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:45:42 +0000

This article is puzzling. I’m not sure the word “alone” means what you think it means. Now, if your definition of alone is the absence of family, friends, and allies, then the only time Sam has ever been truly alone is when he was in Lucifer’s cage. At the end of last season, Sam no longer had Dean, Cas, or Bobby, but he still had allies and friends he could have contacted. He chose not to, and apparently did just fine because it didn’t take him long to adopt a dog and hook up with a new girlfriend.

As far as Sam being left by Jessica, his mother, and Dean, although I would argue that Jessica and Mary were taken, the same can be said for Dean. Just replace Jessica with Cassie (she’s not dead, but she might as well be) and you have the same result. However, each of those times Sam and Dean had someone else they could call on. They either had each other, John or Bobby.

Dean on the other hand, was alone at some point in Purgatory, not sure how long, but even he wasn’t alone for long. However, he was truly alone in Hell. I literally cringed when you said that Dean wasn’t alone because he had Alistair as a mentor, trainer and torturing partner. Most people only see Dean as being tortured for 30yrs, I believe he was tortured for the entire 40yrs. Just because he took up a knife and tortured souls for 10 of those 40yrs, and apparently liked it, doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a form of torture, psychological in fact. Remember, Dean was broken up about his time as a torturer and to this day I believe he still harbors some guilt because of it. He hasn’t been the same since.

In the end, your definition of alone when applied to Sam shouldn’t be any different when applied to Dean. I can further discuss issues of abandonment, because I believe it was something you hinted at when you talked about Mary, Jessica, and Dean leaving Sam alone. However, as I don’t have the time or patience to get into that at the moment, I’ll stop here. Besides, I believe there’s truly only one brother with abandonment issues on this show (for good reason), and that would be Dean Winchester.

By: donilou2

donilou2 — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:30:17 +0000

Then you should have proofread your article before publishing it then retracting most of it. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Finally, Dean does have people who have his back, their names are not “Sam” that’s all.

By: Mina

Mina — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:27:53 +0000

Well guess what, not choosing to “embrace” is the exact same thing as “self-inflicted”. Sam could have had Bobby after Dean went to Hell, instead he chose a demon who had done nothing but lie to him the entire year before. This time around he also chose, he wasn’t completely alone, there were still a few hunters he knew and the lady sheriff from Bobby’s town. Dean’s been every bit as alone as that. Dean knows what it’s like to have no “back up”.

Dean didn’t whine, but apparently while Sam is allowed to feel victimized all he wants, if Dean even TRIES to talk about how he feels, he’s accused of whining about it. Dean never gets to deal with his emotions because no one is ever there for him to deal with them with, even when Dean has tried. Then he gets accused of being weak or whining as soon as he so much as mentions it.(and considering Elliot Ness had no clue what Dean had been through he really had clue what he was talking about). That’s why Dean has abandonment issues, because he’s been repeatedly abandoned when he needed someone most. When Dean got back from Hell, Sam was there in body, but he wasn’t there for Dean, he spent his time looking down on Dean telling Dean how there was something wrong with him and he was “weak”. When Sam got his soul back, Dean was there for him, he helped him deal with it and he tried to do more but Sam wouldn’t accept his interest or his help.

Dean isn’t a sulker, Dean’s been suffering from PTSD in one form or another since he was 4 years old(remember Dead in the Water, we found out he didn’t talk for months after his mother died, that’s a form of childhood PTSD), not to mention his father dumping adult responsibilities on his while he was still in grade school and using him to blame for John’s own failures as a parent(Something Wicked, the episode we find out Sam ran away and John took it out on John, etc) – yet Dean’s spent most of his life not only making lemonade out of lemons(enjoying the little things in life) but managing to support everyone else. 99% of the time he’s done anything but sulk.

By: Jena

Jena — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:08:48 +0000

“When aloneness was focused on as a theme in Supernatural, it’s historically been Sam that was the one left alone. His mother left him in his crib, Jessica left him through the same tragic means, Dean went to Hell and left Sam to fend for himself, Sam was alone in the Hell cage with Lucifer while Dean lived a loving life with Lisa and Ben. Heck, Sam was even left alone from his very self, when his soul was taken away from him.”
I have no idea where this thought could come from. Dean is the one with abandonment issues-and he has them for a reason. Just a suggestion-Go back and watch Dark Side of the Moon when Zachariah’s reflection of Mary hits on all the reasons why. I disagree entirely with this article-Sam has never been ” “left” alone, on the contrary, he’s often chosen to go it alone when he’s had ample support just a phone call away, and he’s even at times been portrayed as desiring a life separate and alone and away from his family as he equates his family with hunting.

By: deborah

deborah — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:39:24 +0000

That should be “Song Remains the Same”! Oops!

By: deborah

deborah — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:37:55 +0000

The worry about Cas being replaced is NOT just from those interested in the ‘slash pairing,’ Marilyn. That is totally unfair. Tons of SPN fan, including those who are not interested in destiel, enjoy Cas and his contribution to the show; he’s an awesome and interesting character. I have loved the series since season one; love Dean and Sam. But I also love Cas; he’s funny, intense, interesting. His give and take with Dean is priceless; the chemistry on screen between Misha and Jensen is marvelous. I love Team Free Will; the term Dean coined for he, Sam, and Cas in “Song Remains the Song.” In addition, Misha is an amazingly talented actor.

I have nothing against Benny staying, as long as Dean can keep BOTH of his friends, new AND old. I just don’t want SPN tuning into Team Vampire. I’m tired of the glut of vampires in television shows and the movies. I don’t want SPN turning into a run-of-the-mill vampire show.

By: Marilyn

Marilyn — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:42:08 +0000

The Benny – Dean story is powerful, especially the way it will evolve Dean’s black & white approach to things, so I hope Carver plans a more interesting use of it than rehashing the Ruby scenario.

And he won’t replace Cas. That is the repetitive worry of a subset of fans who are interested in the slash pairing. What can that possibly matter to the show’s storyline? It’s an irrational fear, now that Sera Gamble’s gone and Carver wants to repopulate the Winchester’s world. I hope Benny’s here to stay! Awesome character/actor.

By: Marilyn

Marilyn — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:32:48 +0000

Actually, it is Dean who is iconically alone in the whole series. Remember the YED in Devil’s Trap commenting on how unneeded he was to Sam and John? And Mary in Dark Side of the Moon saying flat out “Everybody leaves you Dean.”

Sam is alone mainly because the writers forget to supply the characters for him to interact with. Dean is alone in canon, and abandonment is his core experience that determines much of his behavior.

By: deborah

deborah — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:35:07 +0000

OOPS!! That should say “replace the angel.” Typo!! LOL