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Is Grimm great yet? – Quibbling Siblings

Every week brother and sister team Bob and Debbie take on a new topic. This week we discuss NBC's new show Grimm -- how it's doing, where it could be going and if we're enjoying the ride.

Debbie:

This week, I’ve gotten caught up with Grimm. I continue to enjoy it, but here’s the thing: I Castle like it, not Vampire Diaries or Supernatural like it. What I mean is that it’s a fun hour, but I’m not really invested in the story arc or the character growth (since there is none). I’m not dying for the next episode yet I’m always happy to watch, coming out pretty satisfied by the end.

What’s missing? Let’s pick it apart. I know I want more character growth, especially in Nick, and I want more of Nick uncovering great mytharc stuff in Aunt Marie’s trailer. I want to know more about the motivation of the police chief, that’s for sure. I guess all of my needs may be met over time, but if there were a bit more about the mytharc in each episode, making it slightly less procedural-like, I’d probably be sucked in better.

What do you think?

Bob:

I’m enjoying it, and I’m a little surprised at how procedural it has been to date. I agree with most of what you said and I think we’ll get it eventually. Because the show is being run by Buffy/Angel alum David Greenwalt, I keep comparing Grimm to those two shows, especially their first seasons. If you look back on the first seasons of Buffy and Angel, you will find them in a similar position. Each episode was pretty much stand alone, and mythology didn’t really kick in until the end of the first seasons, and then was strengthened throughout the second and following seasons.

The good news is that the show is still good, and there’s a ton of potential. The even better news is that it’s doing fairly well in the ratings (for NBC, anyway). I’m hopeful for the future of the show.

Debbie:

You are so right with the Buffy / Angel comparison, and I did think of that … Buffy‘s season one was fairly forgettable, and if I hadn’t jumped in during season two and backtracked later, I wonder whether I would have stuck with it. Did I just say that?

Now that I think of it on a deeper level, it very much reminds me of Angel‘s beginning seasons, but there’s one big difference. Because we were starting Angel with some familiar characters who did have some mythology to them, from Buffy, I think I never really questioned it much with Angel. Without something to anchor Nick, who has just found out what he is and doesn’t know where to go with it, it’s more difficult. Nick needs a Doyle to guide him (or dare I say a Giles), someone who knows more about the whole Grimm lineage than he does. Aunt Marie’s books may not be enough for him without a living, breathing source of wisdom.

Monroe fits the bill in some ways, since his being a Blutbotten gives him an inside track. And he’s big fun, just like Doyle was. Maybe if Monroe starts researching using the trailer contents?

Bottom line is you being right again (how can this be?): the show is good and does have a lot of potential … I’m just hoping for that potential to kick in sooner than later.

Bob:

I fully expect for the reaper story to get deepened before the end of the season, including the motivations of the chief. In fact, I would be a little surprised if it doesn’t come during february sweeps. It may not end up being another Buffy or Angel, but if it can add a little bit more reward for the loyal viewer while maintaining good weekly stories, the show is going to be a keeper.

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14 Responses to “Is Grimm great yet? – Quibbling Siblings”

December 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Is this worth catching up on? I was really turned off in the couple of episodes past the Pilot. The lead was just too darn wooden for me :(

December 28, 2011 at 9:35 PM

I’m not sure much changes about the lead, but I find him subtle, not wooden. I think the characters around him play off of him nicely, so it works for me. The partner and the Blutbotten are great. I would say yes, it’s worth catching up on, but be prepared for a procedural with the potential to be much more.

December 29, 2011 at 2:51 AM

I still find the lead pretty flat and boring, but the secondary characters more than make up for it. It’s interesting the comparisons to Buffy cause the same could be said about it, many times you watched it more to see the rest of the cast interactions than buffy herself.

December 29, 2011 at 5:05 PM

GREAT observation, and you are so right! Buffy was my least favorite character (until Dawn LOL, very much less interesting than all of the fun around her.

December 28, 2011 at 10:31 PM

I went into the season thinking this show would be awesome and Once Upon a Time would be silly/stupid.

Turns out the exact opposite was true … this one is rather droll and Once Upon a Time is clever, and much fun to watch.

December 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Debbie, I’m with you–I like the show now, and think it has potential to be really good, I already consider it to be better than Revenge (how are they going to keep that show going, beyond a season)?

December 29, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Bob-M,

You said, “I fully expect for the reaper story to get deepened before the end of the season, including the motivations of the chief.”

I admit that I don’t always pay close attention when I’m watching TV; so help me out here, please. What do you mean by “the reaper story and the motivations of the chief?”

Do I need to re-watch an episode? If so, which one? I see that they are available at the NBC website.

I like this show, and I especially enjoy Monroe.

December 29, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Bob D here, not to be confused with regular comment Bob-M. :o)

There hasn’t been a lot about the reapers to date, but the most came in episode 4, “Lonelyhearts.” The A plot there was the pheromone spewing innkeeper, but there was a subplot with a reaper coming to kill Nick, but he was intercepted by the Captain, who is apparently the big reaper leader in the city.

December 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Thanks for responding, Bob. I have now watched episode 4 again. I had not noticed that the big reaper was the captain. I also read the Episode Guide on the NBC site, but only the A plot was summarized.

December 29, 2011 at 11:38 PM

. . . . .

Sue: Bob beat me to it.

I mentioned same in the review of “Lonelyhearts”: https://clak.us/t2ml5

January 1, 2012 at 8:04 PM

This show is worth watching for the performance of Silas Weir Mitchell alone. Eddie is an amazing character and I look forward to him every week. The episodes I least like are the ones with very little of him. Luckily, it seems the writers are seeing the gold mine that is Eddie Monroe and bringing him in more and more. Three Bad Wolves and Let Your Hair Down have been my favorites, though there are some holes that were left in Let Your Hair Down that I hope they are going to pick up with when the show comes back from hiatus.

February 23, 2012 at 7:58 PM

I love the show Grimm. It is so facinating love the graphics.

March 4, 2012 at 4:03 AM

The show started off good but so far it’s been the same thing over and over again. Why are they scared of him? Cause he can see them sometimes for who they are? Ooohh, soooo scary!!!! I’m waiting for the writers to give him a sort of power that really causes the other creatures to be scared of him. Other than that, he’s just a cop bustin up people/creatures. If this doesn’t change, i’m gonna stop watching it altogether.

ps. Once upon a time is awesome!!!

March 26, 2012 at 9:15 AM

I agree with others that Grimm should be slightly less procedural (with the backstory) and characters could be more complex. However I like the ‘Murder of the week’-style and would hate the show to become OUAT-style ‘Please move forward with the larger story lines instead of showing meaningless background stories of random storybrooke residents or some low grade drama that leads to nothing.’.

Both shows have currently identical problem: Fairytale world and reality don’t mix together at all.

I think that Nick needs a human ‘partner’ whom with he can share his mystical experiences. This can be either Juliette or Hank. Together Hank and his ‘significant other’ would protect the ‘third wheel’ from physical harm and from knowing the truth about world.

In OUAT solution is simpler: It’s time that one of the adults start to really believe in fairytales.

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